What is the solution to the diesel problem?

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ZMiller
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Re: What is the solution to the diesel problem?

Post by ZMiller » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:17 pm

You now see why forums and especially this one are such great places.
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Re: What is the solution to the diesel problem?

Post by mwtoupin » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:49 pm

ZMiller wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:41 pm
Latest news on fuel quality testing?

On the NFPA 110 website, I noticed that a committee has voted in favor of a Tentative Interim Amendment for additional fuel quality testing of emergency power generator systems. See attached of an NFPA communication dated September 6, 2018.

This could get interesting?

Seems when looking at FOI Labs interactive pass/fail map of North America clusters of fuel test fails are showing up in some pretty interesting places.
Out of spec fuel is the number one cause of E-gen failure so this concern is long overdue. But those sites that are serious about their back up systems do monthly real time testing and periodically filter their fuel to combat stratification in their tanks. In my experience that combined with annual fuel testing/treatment are the most reliable systems. So I don’t think that fuel testing alone will solve this issue.
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Re: What is the solution to the diesel problem?

Post by mwtoupin » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:03 pm

ZMiller wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:14 am
The corrosion issues in tanks and their associated sumps has been resolved.
It is still an issue in ASTs and always will be so this issue has not been completely resolved. It is still the number one cause of AST damage/failure. If the operator does not monitor water build up in their tanks then algae growth will cause damage and eventual tank failure.
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Re: What is the solution to the diesel problem?

Post by ZMiller » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:16 pm

You kind of answered the question for resolution.

How hard is it to keep water out of a tank?

How does the water get in the tank in the first place?

If we are talking about entrained
( emulsified ) and resident water or disolved water suspended in the fuel there are prevention methods currently being used that are fairly well defined.
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