Battling Skimmers

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CherokeeUST
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Battling Skimmers

Post by CherokeeUST » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:53 am

Owners are getting creative or desperate.

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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by Goofy4TheWorld » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:31 pm

As a store owner, I have actually considered installing alarm sensors in my dispensers. I have also considered replacing all of the lock cylinders to a non-standard key. But so far all I have done is had the jumpers removed from my Helix dispensers.

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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by dmcginnis89 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:02 pm

Some of our customers have a product that shuts down the whole dispenser when a top or bottom door is open without bypassing it inside first.

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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by Samir » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:24 am

I'm working on a product that will keep the skimmers out of your pumps forever (and anyone else you don't want in your pumps). Stay tuned...
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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by justinforman » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:47 pm

Dispenser alarms have been around for a while. https://pumpdefender.com/


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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by Lewpac » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:55 pm

Most the Pilot/TAs around here use Flintloc.

http://www.flintloc.com/

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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by ATLTech » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:42 pm

I have seen 2 Sites with flintloc that had fuel stolen. I tried to call them and explain how it was done and what changes they could make to prevent it from ever happening. They didn't even want to hear what I had to say...

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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by Triscone » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:08 pm

ATLTech wrote:I have seen 2 Sites with flintloc that had fuel stolen. I tried to call them and explain how it was done and what changes they could make to prevent it from ever happening. They didn't even want to hear what I had to say...
Slightly north of you in Northern Georgia I have seen Flint-Loc disabled and bypassed and fuel stolen several times. I'm not sure if what you have seen is the same as me, but what I can tell you is, that in our cases 2 things would have prevented it. Firstly would have been better wire routing. If the thief can get to the wires and has access to a Bic Lighter the system can be bypassed in seconds. Secondly would be store personnel actually monitoring the things instead of assuming false alarms. It's not difficult to "accidently" trip it, burn/twist or just cut and wire nut the wires today and return tomorrow or next week for the actual theft. Granted, in the stores afflicted with the second scenario the system was installed poorly and the store was all too accustomed to ignoring true false alarms.

That being said, I thought Flint-Loc went out of business?

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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by ATLTech » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:40 pm

Their website is still up. I assume that means they are still in business. The sites that I have seen were not even tampered with. They accessed it without setting it off.

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Re: Battling Skimmers

Post by PumpKey » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:24 am

Loxahatchee Electronics has been protecting dispensers since 2008. In my opinion the best way to protect a dispenser is with a dispenser alarm.
The Defender One is a UL listed kit approved for Gilbarco and Wayne dispensers. Changing the locks only prevents the honest people from getting into your dispensers. We have customers that have changed locks and within 48hrs have had skimmers installed. Too many static fires at gas stations to be using non-Ul listed products. Contact a qualified Defender One Installer in your area for more information.
http://www.skimmerproof.com
http://www.pumpdefender.com
John Garrity, Loxahatchee Electronics Corporation
Products and Support for the Petroleum Industry since 1991
www.PumpKey.com (561) 784-9600 sales@pumpkey.com

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